Love this just as I loved this part in the movie, macabre, I know, but it just really showed how... insane... but crafty, (you saw the look on the Russian's face,) the Joker really was. And I liked how you only colored the lips.
I really don't know what I thought of TDKR. I really liked Bane as a villain, but the movie itself felt very much like, "okay, we have to top everything we did last time, and make it artsier, etc." I only watched it once, gonna give it another shot someday. What were your thoughts?
Yes, Bane was an amazing villain. One thing I didn't really love was that flying "Bat", because through the other Nolan Batman movies everything, every gadget seemed like possible, in the near future. But I guess speaking of future TDKR takes place 8 years after The Dark Knight. I absolutely loved Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle and Catwoman, since you only saw it once you probably didn't know that they didn't call her Catwoman once. In the papers she was refereed to as "The Cat". And I loved that her and Bruce ended up together, (when Alfred saw them together in Venice about six months or so after everyone thought Bruce was dead.) I didn't think that they were trying to one up The Dark Knight, because I think that's impossible to do. I think they were just trying to keep up with the franchise, and the franchise is just so amazing that they couldn't do anything less. But that's just my opinion!
See, I really didn't like Catwoman. She didn't seem entirely plot-relevent, it seemed more like they just threw her in, like people would be expecting to see Catwoman so we better include her! Although, I did love that she and Bruce were together at the end (it made me cry). I liked that they came back to Ra's al Ghul and his daughter, and stayed within the comic world that way. I dunno. There were just parts I liked and then parts I didn't like, still trying to put it all together. Dark Knight was just great overall. The best I can summarize my feelings was in a review I read, that just said, "Dark Knight felt like a story, TDKR felt like a plot."
I love talking to you about this and I hope you don't take any offense if I say something you don't agree with. Like- isn't story and plot basically the same thing? You can't have a good story without a plot, maybe you're looking for a different word. I just looked up in my thesaurus (I have a MacBook Pro and it comes equipped with a dictionary and thesaurus), anyway, I looked up plot and it said "2 the plot of her novel: *storyline*, *story*, scenario, action, thread; formal diegesis." (I added the asterix-es.) I thought that Catwoman was what she was in the comics, a jewel thief, (even though she stole Bruce Wayne's fingerprints too. She's a thief but she's hard-core, I think. I loved how she was "Nolan-ised" and she wasn't like Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman, I do like that movie, but I don't like the whole ear thing. Nolan made her have a mask, yes, something kind of necessary for a thief, but the "ears" were just her goggles pushed up on her head. I also LOVED the knife stilettos, got to get me a pair. Haha. And I do agree with you that it was expected that Catwoman would be in the movie. But I like how she helped Batman in the end, killing Bane, and helping to save Gotham and living happily ever after with Bruce... as far as we know . I also liked how they came back to Ra's al Ghul's heir, and Bruce thinking it was Bane the whole time until the end. And then it ends up being Miranda Tate or Talia, and Bane was the one who saved her from the pit. That story made me sad, and it was just so intimate, but not in a sexual way. He was her "protector". And she hated her father for excommunicating Bane, because he was a reminder of what his wife went through. She hated her father until Batman "murdered" him. Although we know he didn't murder him he just didn't save him. I felt so bad for Bruce for being so deceived, but he was kind of in a love triangle, wasn't he? With "Miranda" and Selina, and obviously Selina was/is better for him because she has demons of her own. I went to see the movie in IMAX with my dad, and he knew the whole time who she was. He's a comic book artist. His best friend co-created the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and he was the first employee, he started out doing the lettering which I find hilarious because his writing is atrocious. But letter guides can do wonders. He told me that in one of the comics that Talia al Ghul really fell in love with Bruce and that was her downfall. Anyway, this is a long enough comment . Let me know what you think!
As far as the plot/story thing goes, I just meant that at the start of the Dark Knight, you got the mob and the drug lords still reigning over gotham, and are still a main bad guy, until this crazy guy who has no rules or limits shows up and completely does a 180 with the story. TDKR just felt more formulaic. I do love that the catwoman was not some sexed-up character they threw in for the fanboys, and was efficient and had her own equipment, and was good at being a thief etc, but I dunno, it just felt like she was thrown into the story. I was glad though that she did become an ally. I am still relatively new to the comics batman world, but I knew of Talia and her whole backstory, but didn't put two and two together. And I did like that it came back to ra's, about how something that cannot be redeemed (Gotham) must be destroyed. It rounded out the trilogy nicely. I completely love this trilogy, and do like TDKR as a finishing piece, I just still am completely hooked on The Dark Knight. It was able to cross over the superhero genre line. and I enjoy having this chat!